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shouldn't get lost amidst the post-vote spin. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. catch us again for a live edition of "hardball" hosted by chuck todd in one hour at 7:00 eastern. and chris matthews returns tomorrow at 5:00 and 7:00 eastern. right now it's time for "the ed show" with ed schultz. good evening, americans. welcome to "the ed show" tonight from new york. these stories are hitting my hot buttons tonight. take a guess. president obama will sign the historic health care reform legislation into law tomorrow. he and nancy pelosi, the speaker, got it done. this is what leadership looks like. majority whip jim clyburn and howard dean will join me in just a moment right off the top tonight. and let history show that not a single republican voted in favor of the most significant legislation since medicare. health care reform is turning out to be waterloo for the republicans. commentary coming on that later.
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plus tiger woods answers questions for the first time since leaving sexual rehabilitation clinic. steven a. smith will talk about what it's going to be like for him in the masters. this is the story that has a lot of hard working people in this country fired up. ted kennedy's dream of universal health care is just hours away from becoming a reality in this country. the hundred-year war, to make health care a fundamental right in america is upon us. and i can say that i think the good side won. what a loss, what a loss for the right-wing network across the street. think about the hours that they spent just trying to take apart president obama, talk down the proposals, talk down the change, the fear mongering that went on. what a loss for the conservative right-wing talkers of america who lied repeatedly about what's actually in the bill and what it's going to do for the american people. this is a loss for the tea
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partyers. i guess they just didn't organize well enough. maybe they weren't loud enough. they lose. in fact, i think this is bigger than president obama winning the election. you see, we had this run-up to the election. obama beats mccain. huge upset. he wins nine bush states in his first major initiative within 18 months he gets the victory. you may not like the bill totally, but it is a first step. it's the cracking the door open, the kicking it down. yes, conservatives, we're on our way to single payer. we're going to get there some day. of course it's always the darkest before dawn. some tea partyers showed their true colors on saturday. couldn't be without this, could we? congressman john lewis and fellow african-americans had to endure multiple shouting of the "n" word. a protester spit on an african-american congressman emanuel cleaver. homophobic slurs yelled at congressman barney frank. there was no decorum in the
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people's house, either. because they were just frustrated they were losing. this happened when congressman bart stupak tried to address the house floor last night. >> those who are shouting out are out of order. >> baby killer. >> well, texas congressman randy neugebauer was the member who shoutsed out "baby killer" at stupak. he did it because stupak negotiated a deal with the white house to make sure no federal funds were going to pay for abortions. he released a statement today saying last night was the climax of weeks and months, debate on health care bill that my constituents fear, they fear health care reform in the 19th district in texas? interesting. of course they do not support it. in the heat of the motion of the debate i exclaimed the phrase "it's a baby killer." i regret my actions were
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mistakenly interpreted as a direct response, reference to congressman stupak, himself. i have apologized to mr. stupak and also apologized to my colleagues for the manner in which i expressed my disappointment about the bill. hold it right there. are we getting into double figures yet? how many times have the republicans apologized this year for stuff that they said when you know they really meant it? anyway. the man who forgot he lost the last election said this this morning on "good morning america." >> with all this euphoria going on, this inside the beltway champagne toasting and all that, outside the beltway the american people are very angry and they don't like it and they're going -- we're going to try to repeal this and we are going to have a very spirited campaign coming up between now and november. there will be a very heavy price to pay for it. >> you know, you can't take issue with that. i agree that there are some americans out there that are angry. that haven't read the bill. that only listen to the right
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wing talkers and the righties across the street. there's not enough of them. see, they lost. they lost again. the republicans have tried to make this about fear in politics and not what we should do. they just don't get it. they lost and the liberals, well, we won, because we have the facts on our side. what a victory for change. this is a jobs bill, if you want to really dig into the detail. this is a bill about morality and who we are as a people. our leaders have chosen to make this about people and not gouging profits for ceos. inexplicable profits after cutting people off their insurance. middle-class americans, just look at it this way. you woke up this morning knowing that the health care you have now is a right. it's your benefit. it helps your children. and it a your entitlement. you might not feel it yet, but significant change is on the way. this is what president obama had to say after the victory.
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>> this isn't radical reform, but it is major reform. this legislation will not fix everything that ails our health care system, but it moves us decisively in the right direction. this is what change looks like. >> and this battle isn't over. the americans have taken a giant step forward for social justice. in 15 months president barack obama has done more more the middle class than reagan, bush xli, bush xliii all combined. change we can believe in is here. and, you know, having done town hall meetings all over the country, and having people have tears coming down their cheeks, i want you to know, and you folks know who you are, you know how many hands or team has staken on the road and how many voices we've listened to and how we came face to face. i want you to know last night when i had the honor to
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broadcast with david shuster here on msnbc it was the highlight of my career. and i thought a lot about you folks all night long. we are moving in the correct direction. we are going to make sure that people get health insurance so they don't die in this country. we're more about saving lives than we are about profit. get your cell phones out. u to know what you think about this tonight. tonight's text survey is, did passage of the health care reform renew your faith in president obama's leadership? text "a" for yes, "b" for no to 622639. i'll bring you the rust results later in the show. the reason we had the text question tonight, i remember the campaign. remember across the street they were saying over there on the righty network they are saying, oh, he hasn't done anything. he doesn't have any legislative accomplishments. what are you guys saying over there now? it's the biggest thing in 50
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years. here's what i'm really upset about. in the office today, in the office we have this conversation about, okay, what's our text poll going to be tonight? and i lost out on this one. i was voted down in the office. i wanted to know what day do you think rush limbaugh is going to be going to costa rica? it was going to be text "a" for monday, "bb for tuesday. joining me now, south carolina congressman jim clyburn, majority whip in the house. okay, congressman, i'll ask you. what day do you think limbaugh should be going to costa rica? jim, congratulations. take a victory lap tonight. >> thank you so much for having me. thank you so much for all the help you give in helping us educate the american people as to what it was we were trying to do. i think over the next couple of weeks people are going to look in on this thing and they are going to be amazed as to how in touch with middle america this
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legislation is. it's kind of amazing to me the letters i'm getting today. now, some, i wouldn't talk about on this show. i'm hearing from more people now who want to know when can i sign up for this thing? when are you going to get this out to us in the public? for the first time i know now that my child can come on to my insurance policy. for the first time i can keep my child who wants to go to a graduate school on my policy. these things are going to resonate with the american people in a way that nothing has in a long, long time. and those people who are -- got all this gloom and doom about what's going to happen to democrats in notvember, you're going to be hearing a different tune very soon. >> congressman clyburn, you were one of the first to come out and support barack obama on the campaign trail, and you took a lot of heat for it because there were a lot of questions about his experience and a lot of people didn't know him.
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in fact, when he jumped into the race 18% of african-americans knew who barack obama was. you were out there early with him. how do you feel about it tonight? >> i think president obama has demonstrated in the last few weeks exactly what people voted for. now, people had some problems early on because during the campaign people forget that all these economic problems came about in the waning days of the campaign. president obama was talking about reforming our health care system. he was talking about how he was going to expand the economic opportunities in this country. nobody was talking about having to rescue an economy from a cliff that it seemed to be headed toward. and so he did first things first. and now that we have got things stabilized and in some areas
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beginning to grow again, president obama is now concentrating on things like health care and i want to tell you, education as well. i think a lot of people did not focus on the fact that in this reconciliation bill that we passed with 220 votes last night -- >> student loans -- >> -- is a big uptick in pell grants for students who would like to go to post-secondary education, uptick for historical black colleges and universities. over $2 billion in new dollars for them. minority-serving institutions. hispanic-serving institutions. school construction. all this is in this reconciliation bill as well, and i think when people see what we did last night they are going to be very, very happy with the fact that president obama has now got the country moving fast in the new direction. >> congressman, he didn't do it without you and nancy pelosi and steny hoyer over in the house.
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you are the whip. you counted the votes. you got people in line, explained it o them and deserve a great deal of credit. i took to heart your comment last night here at the press conference that we covered here live when you said you have enjoyed every minute of it. >> absolutely. >> and you have to enjoy the run. you've definitely done that. congratulations, congressman. >> thank you so much. thank you. now let's go to former vermont governor and former dnc chair howard dean. good to have you with us tonight. >> congratulations. you worked pretty hard for this one, yourself. >> just a vehicle for the people. it's been fun to be a part of what i believe is a door, an opening for americans. their lives are going to be a lot better. i know this isn't what you wanted. we wanted more. you wanted more. there are some great things in this bill. and what should be the next step for the progressive movement in moving forward on health care reform? >> the first thing is we have to
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let this thing settle out and move on to jobs. a lot of stuff going on in foreign affairs, afghanistan. there's plenty to do on the president's plate. climate change is a huge problem. the house passed a bill. senate hasn't done anything on it yet. there's a lot to be done. this bill needs some time. there's -- over the next six months a lot of very good things are going to happen for the american people. elimination of pre existing conditions, particularly kids, taxi drivers, cleaning women, people like that, who don't have health care benefits are going to be able to afford them again. a lot of americans who work hard are going to able to get health care. there are some problems. the costs aren't controlled. older people are subjected to paying three times as much as younger people are. we've opened the door, as you said, this is a historic night and enormous victory for barack obama, nancy pelosi and harry reid. a huge victory for this president. this president really has come into his own as president of the
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united states now. americans love a winner. he is a winner tonight. this is just the beginning. i don't believe this is really health care reform. this is the opening so health care reform is now just not possible but also a necessity. >> governor dean, what are the midterms going to look like? i know six, eight months is an eternity in politics. this does set the table for the democrats to run on change and to say, we did what we said we were going to do. didn't get everything we want, and i think the american people understand how many olive branches were coming out of the white house to get the republicans on board. they were upfront about obstruction all along. >> this is good for the midterms from the democratic point of view. people love a strong president. this is now a strong president with a big win under his belt. that's going to help the democrats across the board. we're still going to lose some seats, but i think it's much less likely we'll lose our majority in either house at this point. >> governor dean, great to have you with us tonight. i appreciate your time.
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congratulations for all you did. you were the one that stepped forward with a 50-state strategy. i don't think any progressive in this country will ever forget that. thanks so much. >> thanks, ed. coming up, a former bush speechwriter says that president obama's win on health care will mean waterloo for the republicans. david frum joins me in just a moment. tiger woods told the golf channel his addiction is horrific and afraid of how fans are going to react to him when he hits the course at the masters. steven a. smith will join me. caribou barbie spewed something else out there about president obama's inexperience. stick around. run out of a dorm room. when we built our first hybrid, more people had landlines than cell phones, and gas was $1.75 a gallon. and now, while other luxury carmakers are building their first hybrids, lexus hybrids have traveled 5.5 billion miles.
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welcome back to "the ed show." from the beginning of the health care battle the primary objective of most republicans was to see president obama fail. senator jim demint was one of the first to admit it when he said stopping reform would be obama's waterloo. last night the gop lost their fight for failure. a lot of republicans are consoling themselves by predicting widespread democratic defeat in november. former bush speechwriter david frum had a different point of view. he wrote dt conservatives and republicans today suffered their most crushing legislative defeat since the 1960s. today's defeat for free-market economics and republican values
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is a huge win for the conservative entertainment industry. their listeners and viewers will now be even more enraged, even more frustrated, even more disappointed in everybody except the responsibility-free talkers on television and radio. for them it's mission accomplished. for the cause they purport to represent, it's waterloo all right, ours." well, mr. frum, i appreciate your time tonight. i guess the question -- >> thank you. >> -- at this hour based on your opinion, how do they rethink this? how do they recover? >> i think we do rethinking. i need to make clear at the start. if i had been in the house of representatives on sunday i would have voted nay. i don't know why we reached this point where we bet everything on all the marbles trying to repeat 1994. a president this time with 53% of the vote. from here there's talk that republicans are going to go after repeal.
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that's completely unrealistic. michele bachmann has a piece of legislation that says the act is repealed. she's going to show that to the larger number of republicans that will be there at november. they'll say, yes, all for that, except for the part about the 35% tax credit for small business. we like that. that will be a line-out. somebody will say, yeah, kids with the preconditions, we can't take that out. pretty soon you have a repeal bill that is 2,700 pages long and the president is not going it sign it anyway. we need to be focused on reforming this bill and we also need to be focused on trying to find more winnable fights and on issues where compromise is possible as it was on this one to seek compromise, make -- if it's true that nancy pelosi didn't want to compromise, make her the divider. don't be the divider, yourself. make her the obstructionist. don't be the obstructionist, yourself. >> who do you see in the republican party possibly changing their way of thinking? >> i think when you watch that blair house summit, it was clear -- lamar alexander was somebody who wanted to -- who
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was serious about these issues, who took seriously the underlying concern. these are legislators. they hear from constituents. they would have liked to be able to deliver some kind of solutions. they're trapped because we have revved up the voter base that if you are somebody who is serious about health care, like you talked to senator robert ben knit. he's going to be primaried. he's in danger. his people, voters have been convinced -- they're going to murder grandma. how do you do business with people who want to murder your grandma? you can't obviously. >> moving forward, what are the republicans going to run on? just run on repeal? aren't they going to have to come up with, this is what we would do and this is how we could do it, to gain people? are they going to play on the anger and the fear? you mentioned the right-wing talkers and television talkers on lts conservative side. it's great entertainment for their base. they get people riled up and angry. sooner or later you have to get to the detail of what you want to do and where you want to take the country. >> elections are won by the more
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hopeful, more optimistic, more positive and unifying person. that's the person you want to be. that's the kind of person americans want to be governed by. we don't elect angry people. ronald reagan wasn't angry, george bush was angry either. that's how he eked it out. this -- you can't offer people the false promise. it's not even a promise of repeal. i think -- i think as we get close, just the complete unwork blt of that idea is going to reveal itself and it's going to collapse. >> david, obviously you're a conservative, but can you appreciate the campaign ammunition that president obama is now going to be equipped with going out on the campaign trail? he can sell, he's a tremendous talent. people gravitate to him. did the job just get tougher for republicans based on talent, alone? >> as you would expect with any piece of legislation, this is front-loaded with goodies aimed at key republican constituents.
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there are a lot of goodies for people over 65. lot of goodies for small business. they go into effect right away. i oppose this bill. it means more taxes, more debt. where are the cost controls? those problems materialize later. everything that is wrong with this bill materializes late. the things that materialize early people are going to like and key republican constituen constituencies are going to like. >> thanks so much for joining us tonight. appreciate it. david frum, you can find him at frumf i found the whole thing interesting last night in our coverage. it was very clear the republicans do not believe the cbo score and the democrats do. i'll tell you, if the cbo, if the congressional budget office is off a trillion dollars we really are screwed up. coming up, the woman who had to write tax cut on her own hand thinks president obama is over his head? okay. hey, sarah, you're going into the "zone." stay with us.
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and another edition of "psycho talk" tonight. tea party princess sarah palin joined her colleagues on the right-wing network on friday in a last-ditch attempt to smear health care reform. palin must have misplaced the latest republican talking points. she had to fall back on her old attacks from the 2008 campaign. >> it's an absolute broken promise of president obama's that there would be an attempt of bipartisanship. it really reflects a lack of experience of president obama.
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so to jump into this huge, hugely important, responsible position as president of the united states without the experience to know how to work across party lines and to know how to administer and to manage a team to get policy through that makes sense, that's supported by the people, it's a bit over his head, if you will. >> wow. the woman who couldn't stick it out for a single term as governor of alaska is trying to say president obama is over his head? for fun, let's do a little comparison of the two tonight. since president obama took office he started to withdraw troops from iraq. sarah palin withdrew from her job. president obama signed a $787 billion stimulus package that is helping americans all over the country recover from the recession. sarah palin stimulated her own personal bank account writing a book and charging $100,000 to talk to tea partyers. president obama is about to sign historic health care
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legislation. sarah palin, she signed with fox. palin has no place criticizing president obama for lack of experience. her claim obama doesn't know how to be bipartisan is absolutely bogus and certainly not the record. president obama spent the last year trying to reach across the aisle on health care. it's not obama's fault the obstructionist republicans kept slapping his hand away. last night's vote proves that president obama has what it takes to deliver the results. so just remember, a half-term governor from where? saying that president obama is in over his head? that's championship "psycho talk." coming up, small businesses just got a major shot in the arm. the health care bill might be the key to our economic recovery. house help committee chairman george miller of california will join us with the good news in just a moment. plus, tiger's talking. he's letting all the skeletons out of the closet before the masters. i'll tell you how he connects
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welcome back to "the ed show." thanks for watching tonight. health care reform is good for the country, but it is especially good, and the story has not been told enough, for small businesses. the thing that gets me, the republicans know this. small businesses are going to get a tax credit worth 35% of their health care costs. it's going to jump to 50% in the tax credit in two years. this is right out of their playbook. the insurance exchange will provide more bargaining power. they'll be able to purchase better coverage at a, buzz phrase, lower cost. the small business majority group predicts coverage costs could drop by as much as 30%. this will encourage more americans to take a risk, take a
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risk and start a business. small businesses will be able to compete for the best employees if they can offer a better benefit package. for more let me bring in one of the architects of this reform bill, joining me now is congressman george miller, chairman of the house education and labor committee. congressman, this -- i figured out this much. this bill has got so much in it, where do you start telling the good stories? i run a small business. my sons run a concrete business. i feel so compelled to put up on our screen tomorrow night exactly what's in it for a company with less than 25 employees. go ahead. this is reaching across the aisle, isn't it? >> exactly. it's reaching across the aisle. it was one of the main concerns of the obama administration, of the senate and the house democrats when we did this bill. we wanted to make health care affordable to those small businesspeople that wanted to
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offer it for their employees. we're offering it now and telling us they can't afford to keep that insurance for their employees. the tax credit is immediate. as you pointed out, in two years it grows up to 50%. this is what people have been saying we should offer for small businesses for many years and now it's available to them. it's critical. when you talk to small businesspeople in our constituencies they say to us, well, i would keep my -- i would keep the insurance or i would offer insurance, or that's very interesting, i would think about that. they're very encouraged by this. the fact is republicans decided rather than be constructive, rather than get involved in this process, they would lie about this bill, tell mistruths about this bill, distort the bill. they would whip up crowds to spread all this misinformation about the legislation. when people focus on it now they see that this benefits their families, their businesses, their employment, and their opportunities. >> you know, that's what's so disingenuous about their whole
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complaint about this bill, is republicans know exactly what this is. people that have to meet payroll, people that want to get insurance to their employees, people that want to keep employees so they don't go elsewhere and get the best employees you can and really compete, this has got all kinds of incentives. you know, this and the jobs bill you guys have passed, i've never seen an administration in less than 18 months do as much for jobs as this administration has done. >> that's it. and not only that, this legislation will create jobs. we will create 4 million jobs over the next decade because of the growth in the health care field and life science fields and in the community health care facilities fields. so this is a tremendous opportunity. also think of this for that small businessperson. even if they don't offer insurance they will know their employees are covered so that their employees won't be missing work because they couldn't get health care and now they have an pneumonia instead of a cold. these kind of things are
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tradeoffs that are so valuable when trying to keep a workforce together. they won't worry about whether or not they child has insurance or won't have insurance. they'll be covered and always be covered. this lifts burden off small businesses. >> great work. great to have you with us. >> thank you. >> congressman george miller from san francisco tonight on "the ed show." let's talk about the politics of this. let's go to democratic strategist steve mcmahon. the republicans have been squawking all day about how they want to repeal this. how do you run a campaign on ut to repeal stuff? what do you think, steve? >> i hope that's the campaign they run. they're going to then be explaining to the american people why it's a good idea to put the pre-existing condition situation back where it was. they're going to have to explain to people why it's a good idea to take away tax credits for small business that will create jobs. 70% or 75% or 80% even of what's in this bill is very, very popular with 80% of the electorate. with a lot of republicans, and when they try to explain what it
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would mean to repeal this bill i think it will be their waterloo. >> okay. now, the gop and the tea partyers, what's the relationship moving forward here? it seems that they might come together now that this legislation has been passed and it might unite them. or am i wrong on that? >> i think the tea partyers have as many qualms with gopers as they have with democrats. i think what you might see is tea party activists in gop primaries which is going to create a whole other great sporting event for those of us who are democrats who like to watch republicans tear each other up. the tea partyers are going to get in there against incumbents they think have spent too much money, and they have, and they're going to run the tea party movement against the conservative republican movement and it's going to be great sport to watch. >> how much money do you think will be spent in this midterm? will it break a record as opposed to other midterms, total dollar? >> i think what you have on both
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sides is a very, very energized base. democrats feel like the obama administration has delivered on a very, very big promise and something that eluded presidents for 60 years. the republicans are as angry as the democrats are happy right now. i think you're going to see that with small dollar fund-raising and with huge amounts of money spent in campaigns. you mentioned earlier to governor dean, who's one of my favorite people in politics, thank god he had a 50-state strategy because democratic activists in all 50 states are going to be supporting candidacies now for democrats running for re-election in ways that they haven't in the past. that's going to be a good thing for those candidates. >> steve mcmahon, great to have you with us tonight. i want to get "rapid fire response" from our panel on these stories. republican congressman from texas is trying to walk back his baby killer comment. he claims it wasn't directed at democrat bart stupak. health care reform passed congress. could face a court fight from at
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least 12 states angry about the insurance mandate. and a progressive group launches a major tv advertising campaign against psycho talker congresswoman michele bachmann. joining us tonight, political analyst jennifer donahue is with us. republican strategist ron cristy. ron, we'll start with you tonight. first of all, how many apologies have we seen come from republicans this year? no, that's not my question. my question is -- i have to have fun with this, ron. >> i know. >> is he genuine in his apology saying, well, he was just saying baby killer, he wasn't directing it at the congressman. >> well, i don't think that type of language is proper on the floor of the house of representatives. i don't think alan grayson, democrat from florida, some of the hateful things he's said, is appropriate. i don't think republicans should do it. i think republicans and democrats need to recognize that is the people's house and that level of incivility is uncalled
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for. i don't like that in politics. >> what do you think, jennifer? >> well, i think that ron is putting it nicely for the republicans. i think it's a sign of absolute desperation. i think it's a fight to stay relevant. i think the apology is because he went too far. didn't realize it because he's caught up in a whirlwind. there's a whipsaw going on. republicans can't see straight, they're so angry. their entire world and entire political landscape has changed 100% in the last week. they don't know how to deal with it yet. >> with all due respect -- >> next subject. ron, you have a legal back ground. what do you make of attorney generals across the country who want to challenge this saying that, you know, it constitutionally just doesn't stand up, the bill that they signed last night. >> very concerned about it, ed. first let me say the republicans actually do have a strategy. we're not spinning around. i'm tired of this talk about the beltway and tired of democrats always saying, oh, it's the republicans this. let's focus on the good things for the country. one of the bad things that
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happened yesterday is your question, ed. there are 37 states around this country that have said we should leave it to the tenth amendment. those powers not specifically delineated in the constitution we should allow that power and abilities to the state. i think it has never, ever been attempted by a congress, democrat or republican, to say an american has to purchase a particular goodened service. that has never happened. >> you think they withstand the legal test here? >> i do. i read the constitution again this afternoon. i don't see anywhere in the constitution this government and our founders specifically called on americans to particularly guy a gooder service. >> jennifer, is this whining politics or going to play in a lot of places? >> i think actually here is where ron, i agree that there's a point that is going to elongate this debate. more than the repeal process. more than what's going to happen. excuse me. my eyes are watering with these camera lights. more than what we're going to see with repeal and parliamentary maneuvers. we're going to see states taking
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a firm ground. political activists. trying to get this tree peeled. the same way they've had success with roe v. wade. >> ron, quickly, the candidates are going to be facing a barrage of ads. michele bachmann is being targeted early on. is this the tip of the iceberg? >> i think it's the tip of the iceberg. the tip of the iceberg against conservative americans around this country who are concerned about the big size of government. they're not going to go after republicans. $100,000 against congresswoman bachmann is nothing. democrats are the ones a lot of them are going to get thrown out of office due to their vote. >> jennifer, don't feel bad about those tears coming down your cheeks. water from the eyes, the lights. i know about it. we won't mistake you for a republican today after the big bill was signed. >> that's right. i could be mistaken for a republican. i'm actually an independent. i should be crying out of one eye and not out of the other. >> go ahead, make the comment on it. >> just quickly, i think that democrats are trying to show
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they can fight back. the republicans aren't the only well-funded ones and they're going to start a campaign about the health care bill that democrats are going to fight back and do it as well. >> all right. >> wait november, guys. it's going to be a game changer. >> you'll be on a lot before then, ron. >> ron, it's a midterm election. >> jennifer donahue, ron christie, always a pleasure. coming up, president obama sure knows how to keep his cool as congress brought the health care bill down to the wire. he's back there checking his ncaa brackets. steven a. smith is here to talk about march madness. the masters, so much more coming up in the "playbook." preparing for retirement can be complex. and with 7,000 boomers a day reaching retirement age, the need for help has never been greater.
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in my "playbook," tiger woods took questions for the first time since the world found out he's had multiple extramarital affairs. before his return to augusta next month, tiger explained how his personal life got so far off track. >> how did things get so out of control? >> going against your core values. losing sight of them. i quit meditating. i quit being a buddhist. and my life changed upside down. i felt i was entitled which i never had felt before. and consequently i hurt so many people. i tried to stop and i couldn't stop. and it was just, it was horrific, to stare at yourself and look at the person you've become, you become disgusted. >> heenwhile, after a brief stint working for tiger woods former bush secretary ari fleischer has cut and run. fleischer hit the bricks because
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he thought he was becoming too much a part of the story. joining me now, steven a. smith, columnist for the "philadelphia enquirer." steven a., why two five-minute interviews? what's the mission here? >> the mission is to make sure you derail that momentum coming your way when you're about to take the golf course in a couple of weeks. that's number one. number two, more importantly, with those text messages that were revealed by the former prostitute or what have you, jos lynn, a lot of stuff came out. that's going to invoke a lot of -- provoke a lot of questions. you try to derail it as best as you possibly can, make sure you are open to any questions. at the same time you limited it to five minutes so it couldn't be so invasive. >> what do you make about the comment he's apprehensive about how the fans are going to treat him? >> i think he's awe thept thentic. he doesn't know the reaction he's going to get. there are people out there who want to see him play golf
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finally tonight on "the ed show," we're in the end zone for health care. here's how the final steps of the process will play out. tomorrow morning president obama will sign the senate health care reform bill into law. as soon as that happens senate democrats can move to pass the fixes to the bill through reconciliation. the republicans are going to do whatever they can to obstruct. senate democrats think they could pass the fixes by the end of this week. for more let me bring in maryland congressman elijah cummings. good to have you with us. >> always a pleasure. >> you bet, sir. thank you. the leap of faith by the house, i guess you could say, has been taken. how do you feel about where the senate stands right now? >> i think we'll be fine with the senate. when harry reid came over on saturday and made it clear that he had a majority of the senate that would vote for the fixes, we were fine. the up and down vote, i'm very -- i trust him. i trust the senate that they'll do the right thing.
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i don't think leader reid would have come over and made a statement to our entire democratic caucus if such were not the case. he said he had the signatures and i believe him. >> congressman, did you see the letter? do you know what was in the letter? i mean, there's a lot of devil in the detail here about, you know, when it comes to fixing this bill and doing the reconciliation fixes on this. are you comfortable with the language in the letter? >> i did see a letter that was addressed to us in the house that laid out all the things the senate was willing to do. it was from leader reid. i was very pleased. >> okay. >> ed, let me say this, that you know, i know that -- i've been listening to you over the last few minutes. i know there are a lot of efforts on the part of the republicans to stop this, but you know what? they're going to have to go out there and tell kids that may have chronic conditions that we want to take away something that the congress has given you. they have to say to people, we're going to take away this
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ban on pre-existing conditions. i think, you know, at some point i think the american people are going to say, what is this all about? why aren't you standing up for me? why aren't you helping me to make my family safe and provide them with the care they need? >> it's a tough campaign to run saying you're going to take stuff away from people. >> that's exactly right. >> republicans in our coverage yesterday said people don't believe the cbos and the democrats do. >> our republican friends have a tendency, if the cbo says what they want them to say, they're happy, if they don't they're unhappy. the fact is we're going to get this done. i'm going to be at the white house along with many of my colleagues and watch the president make history. i'm telling you, ed, we as democrats, we're going to have to be on the offense. we've got to let folks know exactly what this bill is all about and how many benefits it has. not only for folks, for them, but for a generations yet
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unborn. >> finally, congressman, you have seen a lot in your lifetime and been through a lot. did the antics outside the capitol yesterday help galvanize democrats and -- go ahead. >> no doubt about it. no doubt about it. i think when you have an icon like john lewis being called the "n" word and others, another one of my colleagues, emanuel, being spat upon. those kind of things make people more emboldened to do the right thing. the main thing, too, it does, is it makes us all determined not to be distracted. that's what the opposition wants. we have to make sure we remember who we're fighting for and not necessarily who we're fighting against. >> congressman elijah cummings, always great to have you with us. appreciate your conversation. >> my pleasure. i asked, did passage of the health care reform renew your faith in president obama's leadership?


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